who will win in 2012

I wouldn't hold your breath. I suppose you think that the Bush years had nothing to do with what has happened in our country since Obama took office. I suppose you think that the Republicans actually planned on working with Obama, not against him every day of his presidency. Think again.

I suppose you don't remember the shellacking!?

The shellacking? You mean all of the Republican LIARS who were elected on the LIE that THEY could bring the jobs back??? Yeah, I remember that BS. It's been over 200 days since they were elected. Hopefully, the Republicans who voted for all of those losers realize now that it wasn't going to be that easy to bring the jobs back. If they have a brain, they won't vote for them again!

well I'm sure Obama will get right on that..........after his vacay.............yeah....sure....lol

he's toast

Stacey, You just don't get it, do you??? Did you even read my post? Of course, you didn't. Blinded by the Republican lies. Time will tell.

big brother mentality, eh stacey?

toast

1. Jobless rate too high

2. Economy in doldrums

3. ObamaCare looms

4. Out-of-control debt and credit downgrade

5. Depressed base

6. Opposition energized

7. Changes in battleground states

8. Foreign policy mess

9. Media less adoring

10. Aloof, inept

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=45480

tweet, read #3.4, You seem to be the type that believes obama was qualified for something other than getting a check.

He has no worth in any sense of the word and has been a drain on humanity since getting into politics. Don't bring childish party politics into it since he's living proof that waste material is still on the hill.

He certainly has worth as a human being who cares about the people of this country. The problem since day one has been the childish antics of the Republicans, playing games and acting like two year olds (at best). You act as if the Republicans haven't had anything to do with the drain on Americans. How convenient of you to forget the two wars on Bush's watch, the stock market going to pot on his watch, the mortgage fiasco on his watch, etc. Look, I'm not going to argue with you. President Obama has done a lot of good things since he was elected. The health care reform for one, getting Bin Laden, etc. The results in November will tell what the citizens of this country want. You know, in a way I hope that the Republicans win so that the Democrats can act exactly the same way that the Republicans have acted since Obama was elected. It will be fun to bash the hell out of them. Revenge is sweet.

Tweet is typical. Always one sided. Never even read the other comment I referred to. Oh well, I guess short sighted one sided people are everywhere. Don't even know who they were talking about since I don't like republicans either.

Captain, I am betting that the next president elected in 2012 will be repealing that health-care fiasco in a few hours of being sworn in by using executive order and the country will save billions in the first quarter of their administration rather than making the insurance giants rich.

Oh, my huge mistake was to reference my comment incorrectly, it was #3.5. Sorry everyone.

Either way it goes down and we are free of forced purchase of something many don't need or want from them.

paxi, I'm typical??? Really? I voted for the stupid Republicans my entire life until the last election. You call that typical? Shows how you generalize about people. Yes, I left that sorry @$$ Republican Party because they are disgusting. They don't stand for what I stand for and the only reason why I voted for them is because my parents convinced me (lied to me) about the Democrats. I felt that I owed it to my parents to vote Republican, even though my views are the opposite of what the Republicans stand for....the Republicans are all about corporate greed, wars, anti-abortion, anti-gay, anti-saving the environment, anti-anyone who isn't white, anti-anyone who isn't Christian, anti-regulations, etc. I can't believe that I ever voted for them and I doubt if I'll ever vote for a Republican again. At least not until they change their ways and I don't see that happening in my lifetime.

LOL..... yeah very typical. Good luck though and take care.

No, not typical. But you have fun now with your little Republican/teabagger party. Bu bye then.

You're so far off twt. Pull your head out and reread the comments, I am by no means republican or "bagger", unlike you who only sees it one way, from a self righteous position. LMAO about the liberals that can't even simply read. Once again;

Good luck, you really show just how much you need it form everyone everywhere.

how can the right not like Obama, Obama's version of compromise is to give the GOP all they want and get nothing for the left in the process. Everything Obama has caved on has been a win for the GOP straight out, like it or love it Obama is your hero lol. Obama's base is "wobbly" because Obama isn't a liberal or a social democrat , he is a centrist who leans heavy to the right. The only reason Obama is so hated by the GOP is because he is partially black, it's the only thing that makes sense, Obama has been in their corner all along making the same moves as Bush in almost everything foreign, much of Obama's presidency has been just Bush 2.0 in most liberal and progressive eyes.

What will be funny here if Obama does lose, it will probably be bad for the GOP, right now they are the bull in the china shop and Obama is the one standing their for the store owner to see and thinks has done all the damage. The GOP controlling the presidency will allow all of America to see how much exactly just wasn't Obama's fault, but the extreme loons that have come out in droves currently on the right. Right now they just blame him for all their mistakes and thanks to Faux their 24 hour propaganda channel , it's all to easy. WHo are the conservatives going to blame for their own mistakes when their buddy Obama is gone.

And just to note, I wish a real Democrat would run against the right leaning Obama, but if not I will not vote any ding bats in , we have enough of them in both houses in DC as it is we don't need anymore crazy, so I guess I and many more will vote Obama again in 2012.

how come the right doesn't like him?....aaaaaaaaah lets see they are.....rascist? bigots? they love the fake Taxes religious righwing Jimmy Swagger of Prick Perry and dont care if he stick Cheney's Dick in them to screw them over? because they are aaaaaaaaaah....like old, fat white and Bignorant?........

how can the right not like Obama, Obama's version of compromise is to give the GOP all they want and get nothing for the left in the process. Everything Obama has caved on has been a win for the GOP straight out, like it or love it Obama is your hero lol.

President Obama doesn't bring much credibility to this claim of his bipartisan compromise. He framed that argument only one month into the job with that signature comment to Eric Cantor at that early White House meeting:

"Elections have consequences and, Eric, I won."

Cantor had invited this admonishment by simply passing around copies of the Republican economic plan. Clearly, compromise wasn't the order of the day. If first impressions have a lasting effect, then he set the tone.

You may believe he compromised his way through his first two years because he couldn't nationalize banks, institute a single-payer health-care system or pass a stimulus package of 2 trillion bucks that showered money on everybody in every direction. NONE of this was meeting the Republicans half way, but rather his acknowledgement of the economic and political realities. The president got the leftmost program he could possibly shove through Congress…and that was on his own terms, it was a ideological agenda, not some middle ground agreement worked out between Pelosi and Boehner.

Had not the November 2010 reaction against the high-handed methods used to pass stimulus and healthcare reform, Obama wouldn't even bother to be bullying Republicans on this "bipartisan" stuff. His spin on compromise is a confession of weakness of the results, and a highly shakey standing with the public. It is nothing but a shield to give him cover in 2012.

The President doesn't need Boehner, McConnell or any other Republican's approval to propose a budget plan with significant savings in entitlements. Hell surely knows that he didn't seek Republican signoff to push through Obamacare. He's just afraid of blowback from his own party if he puts himself on the record to cut entitlements without forcing Republicans to agree to tax increases. It's nothing but a Hail Mary attempt to create a wedge issue for 2012 by bullying the GOP into saying "OK" to tax increases…like they did to Bush senior. The GOP (or the public) isn't buying what he's shoveling.

how come the right doesn't like him?....aaaaaaaaah lets see they are.....rascist? bigots?

But of course. Just take a look at the abuse heaped on Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice, JC Watts, Herman Cain, Allen West, Marco Rubio, Nikki Halley, Bobby Jindal. The excuse their attackers always use is their ideology. Well guess what? It's no different with Obama, he can be personally likeable and ideologically unlikeable. Many polls clearly show this.

Then again, obama may very well be a P.O.S. as a person and as a politician, kinda like bush. Most likely since BO is unaware of anyone but himself to look out for, just like bush.

Thought I would never say it, clinton was not so bad.

Capt... wow. You think that the Reps candidates will not have the ideological referendum onto them.

Dems can run ads to showing all of the Reps statements too. Like Perry and the whole S.S and Medicare thing.

You think that if Bachmann wins so how, that Americans will put her butt near the WH. Haaaa. 2 dollars gas, haaaaaaaaa.

Actually even the conservative base is Fiscally responsible and socially liberal, most Americans fall into this category. Attacking the safety nets is a risky venture, it back fired on Nixon and made JFK a hero, this isn't a time to be playing rich against the poor it will only serve to destroy our union not fix it, every developed nation in the world has 10 times the safety nets the USA has in place for it's citizens, it's beyond time for the right to lay down their crusade to kill the new deal. If the dems highlight all of the rights attacks on all the safety nets and then do comparisons to places like China and show in ways they have better lives (china provides healthcare, education and has fewer citizens in jail even though 5x the population of USA) etc. They will crush the right.

But dems tend to be mild mannered compared to the right during elections, to timid to nail anyone to the wall. But IF......

perry "I don't like SS and MEDICARE" will meet his match in the SENIOR voters. They won't stay home and they will vote AGAINST THE DIRTBAG

it doesn't matter who the opponent is

Obama won that way...he was the anti-Bush. It didn't matter who the Republican would have run in 2008, Teddy Kennedy couldn't have won running as a Republican.

yep just keep that negativity coming along with racist implications coming on strong..and keep underestimating the president...that will get him a second term as it did the first time...and the constant criticism of the president without offering anything positive to the middle class and cheers to you!

what is positive to the middle class ? a 9.2% unemployment rate, 3.6% increase in food prices, 20.1% increase in energy costs. on the tail of a debt crisis he takes a 2 + million dollar bus trip supposedly to hear about how miserable americans are and then say so long I'm off to a lavish vacation and golfing trip, see ya..a president who was on an obvious campaign tour that couldn't answer a simple question a farmer asked about HIS regulations because they made no sense..

no there is nothing positive about obama to the middle class....

yes kaitlin you are part of the problem i am talking about the republicans not obama but you didnt glean that in my comment and that is why he will most likely be reelected your party just dont get the clues...

3.6% increase in food prices

Since when yesterday? I think that figure is way off. how much has the cost of food gone up in the last decade?

katlin, Bush spent much more time on vacation during his presidency than Obama has. I'm really tired of that old song and dance.

How could Bush have gone on vacation during the last three years of his presidency, knowing that our country was going to hell in a hand basket? How could he go to Texas to chop wood for a photo op when the stock market was crashing and big corporate America, the banks and mortgage companies were destroying the lives of all Americans? How could Bush go on vacation knowing that the mastermind of the destruction of the World Trade Center was still alive and plotting his next mass destruction of Americans? How could Bush go on vacation knowing that he had gotten us into two unnecessary wars for oil??? How could he go on vacation knowing that the price of gas was over $4.00 a gallon? How could Bush go on vacation knowing that children born with a pre-existing deadly disease would be sent to die because the insurance companies wouldn't cover pre-existing conditions? How could he do that???

I'll be waiting for your response. CHEERS! : )

vacation? it was a seclusion where SHRUB could talk to the mythical supreme entity and get advice on how to proceed

Keep dreaming, all the Repubs have to do is open their mouths to drive away voters!!
Cheers!
:)

And the Republican controlled house is even lower than that. Keep smiling!!
Obama produces while the GOP just says "no".

it will be ideology

Correct for once: an ideology of no from the GOP and one of progress from Obama.

The GOP and teabaggers have no plans but to improve anything, but more tax breaks for the very rich. Good Luck with that.

and one of progress from Obama.

..just 'more' of the same.

obama and the dem party are obviously pandering for votes by trying to give away the country--he's willing to sacrifice america for his next vote...here's how......he gives amnesty to illegals even tho it was voted down many times in congress but he changed the name and did it on his own-he's trading the Hispanic vote for the American vote,--- he's promising the poor once again that they are "entitled" to the earnings of the rich, even tho they'll never get any, but the gov will benefit from the increased taxes, it plays well for votes but when will they ever learn , it just isn't true, they won't see a dime-----he promises the middle class tax brakes..LOL, all we've seen is mandates to "buy" insurance and stealth taxes that were raised on the goods we buy and things we do and back breaking debt placed on us and our children, & we see that we have no future on this path.....

we have no future under obama's path- the wealthy will move their money out of the country, the corporations will continue to get their breaks because obama can't do without them, the middle class will be priced out of the neighborhood and there will be no incentive to "do better" the poor will continue to be poor, indeed they will probably be worse off as a broke country cannot support them..

The GOP and teabaggers have no plans but to improve anything, but more tax breaks for the very rich. Good Luck with that.

They already have a plan and it's to lead BHO by the nose. All they need to do is set the target or goal of 1, ask for 2 from the POTUS and he will prove to the people that he's the great compromiser and gives the other party only 1 instead of 2. Believe me it's been proven.

an ideology vote eh?

NOthing for the country
NOthing for the people
NOthing for the economy

NOTHING AT ALL - that's brought to YOU by the PARTY OF NO! NO! NO!!!

@ Katlin, How much time does one need to FIX any problem ?

Given the amount of time Obama had spent in office, Has he really fixed any problem ?

I mean really, Has there been any problem HE fixed that made much difference in the lives of the people of this nation ? Noticed I said FIXED, regardless of whether it was for the RICH or POOR !

How much more time does he really need ? IMHO, He only COMPOUNDED the problems he faced while he's been playing GOLF !

@ Katlin, How much time does one need to FIX any problem ?

obama has had enough time to at least IMPROVE something but he has not even done that much..

Given the amount of time Obama had spent in office, Has he really fixed any problem ?

hell no

How much more time does he really need ? IMHO, He only COMPOUNDED the problems he faced while he's been playing GOLF !

agreed--and his time is running out , thankfully..

Someone more cynical than I, hard to do.

Someone more cynical than I, hard to do.

really I have been told I live in a dream world with utopian ideas

;-p

Will he fool the independents? No. Will the majority of them look at who the Republicans nominate and realize that, while he may not be great, Obama is still a better option? I believe so. The key aspect is they are moderates - they're wanting someone not too far to either side and Obama is closer to the middle than any of the likely (R) nominees. If they would actually nominate a moderate Republican (or, in their language, RINO), they could win this thing hands down. But they seem to think that they could run a blind 3-legged goat against the President and win, so will offer up a way-right candidate and lose.

Depepnds on where the moderate support comes from, state-wise. Remember, in the presidential election it's about the EC, not the popular vote. If the moderate support to the right comes from states that will already be going red, it won't make a difference. Likewise, if Obama pulls the moderates in CA (for instance) it won't do him any good either, since he's already getting those electors. As always (anymore), it's going to come down to who pulls the moderates/independents in the toss-up states. I sometimes wonder if the majority of people realize that who becomes President really rests in the hands of only 4-5 states. By my personal judgement (which is by no means meant to be expert testimony), Obama's walking in with 224 in his pocket - return 12 from MA and possibly 17 from MI to the toss-up column if Romney's the candidate - and the (R) has 161 locked in.

CaptainObvious.....That's funny! Bush fooled the Republicans TWICE!

so cap'n - you REALLY expect "moderates" to vote for a CONSERVATIVE NUMBSKULL? I'm thinking that given that rightwingnuts don't exactly "excite" the "moderates" (Of which, I am ONE, BTW) so that the 9% figure might be just a wee bit "difficult" to attain. I won't vote for ANY of the presumed "RETHUG candidates" at this point - they appear closer to a "SIEG HEIL!" than anything else (and we KNOW how well THAT one worked out, EH?)

"Party Ideology" isn't EVERYTHING (particularly in the case of Perry where the BAD outweighs the "good")

hey - bachman, perry and sarah - the stooge and two stoogettes. Proof that the" lowest common denominator" of "candidates" still means something to "CONservatives"